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that's all the time we have tonight. thanks for watching. cnn tonight starts right now. president trump back at the white house tonight after a president's day weekend at mar-a-lago, and a surprise announcement of the newest member of his team. the president says this about his new national security adviser. h.r. mcmaster. >> he is highly respected by everybody in the military, and we're very honored to have him. >> meanwhile, protesters take to the streets today in cities across the country for what they're calling not my president's day rallies.
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free speech or hate speech. the breitbart editor, you saw him with bill mahre this weekend. but what got him booted this weekend is much worse. good evening to you, thanks for joining us tonight. the president announced his national security adviser after firing general michael flynn over trust issues, here's what the president said today. >> we've been working very diligently that h.r. mcmaster will become the security adviser. i watched and read a lot over the last two days. he is highly respected by everybody in the military. and we're very honored to have
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him. >> so as we know, he wasn't the president's first choice, how did the president decide on mcmaster. >> they knew they had to work quickly to fill this position when michael flynn held this role, this is someone the president turned to for guidance. he spent the weekend pouring over these potential picks and decided on lieutenant general mcmaster and a senior administration official told me it was a combination of mcmaster's combat experience as well as his intellectual drive that really sold trump on the pick, and that's where we are today. >> you have new reporting tonight on john kasich, slated to meet with president trump later this week? what do you know? >> we have heard from sources on both sides of this, there is a tentative meeting set up at the white house between president trump and the governor. the governor was a fierce critic
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of president. he's the sitting governor of ohio. that was a pretty big snub he didn't even vote for donald trump. a senior professional tells me this meeting is long overdue. we've seen these meetings collapse in the past. >> stay tuned is what you're saying? >> the president is also expected to serve a new travel ban this week. >> this seems like the big agenda item for them this week. they're trying to taylor one that will uphold scrutiny. they'll look at why the last ban was knocked down or not held up. the new ban is likely to apply to the same seven muslim majority countries. this person would not say whether the syrian refugee ban, which was indefinite in the
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first proposal will still hold through this executive order. they do want to make some changes so that they hope it will uphold the scrutiny of the courts, one of those is to make it clear in this new executive order that green cardholders will not be subject to this ban. and the other is to offer current guidance to people who have pending visas. that is something that took people by surprise. they were no longer going to be allowed in the country. we are expecting that late this week, as always, don, with this white house time lines can be fluid. >> seems like not much going on this week. >> it's going to be super easy. >> it's going to be super easy. >> thank you, sarah, i appreciate that. >> let's bring in nia mallika henderson. military analyst major general james spider marks. good evening to all of you,
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thank you for joining us, happy president's day, by the way. >> what can you tell us about lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster? >> don, that's a wonderful choice. h.r. mcmaster has a tremendous reputation in the military, he's a very, very -- very highly regarded ph.d.. so he's both a soldier and he's a scholar. he's got incredible combat qualifications from the military. he came up -- as he was progressing through the ranks. he was identified early on during desert storm he won the silver star, he was identifies as a leader that would take us through the next generation. sadly what happened, for whatever reason, he was pushed aside. because he was speaking out about the type of leadership that's necessary to move this military forward, he's the author of the book that's
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incredibly damning about the department of defense during the vietnam war called dereliction of duty. many embraced that, i don't know that we need this type of criticism, this vocally in the military, it took a couple of selections for general officers to finally get him over the threshold and accelerate through. now he's doing incredible things in the military. >> how is that defiance going to play out in the white house, in a trump white house especially. >> i have to tell you, the primary issue is going to be, how is he going to comport. how is he going to work with the rest of that national security staff to include mr. bannon, having a policy guy in the national security council would not have been my recommendation. but that's a done deal. it's a decision that's been made, put it to the side. it should not be and will not be
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h.r.'s first battle to take on. that would be a death nail to him immediately. >> he'll walk into that position. his first job is going to have to be able to establish what are the top 3 to 4 priorities in terms of our foreign policy, our international engagement. that's what he needs to do first and foremost. he'll do that with jim mattis in the defense department. certainly with rex tillerson in state. >> that makes up the key bodies. that needs to be going-forward. the president needs to have a speech right now that says this is what our priorities are for our foreign policy moving forward. >> let's talk more about how this affects the national security council. what does this mean for the national security council. you still have a political operative like steve bannon with a seat at the table. >> from folks i talked to today, there's a sense of relief, i think that you have an adult, someone as qualified as spider
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was saying, regarding not just policy, but operations, someone who's been out in the field, from the agency perspective, remember, the role of the national security adviser is the guy, dod, state department hear from them, dhs, what do they want. cia is to open the lens wide enough so the president himself gets the best advice. where i'm less optimistic, i'm not sure bannon has a seat at the table or he's running a parallel national security council that is not transparent to the national security staff. if that's the case, we're going to see conflict continuing in the future. the most important thing. we now, it's a month, it's time to be president in the sense of, you have to get some policies going. there's massive confusion out there, i made a quick list. do we take the oil or not take the oil. iz real, one state or two
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states, china, do we recognize nato or not. you have so many different pieces running around, that my hope is, now the new national security adviser can begin to have a consistent and coherent national security policy. we may agree or disagree with it, but at least we'll have something to debate. now it's just a lot of confusion. >> i saw you shaking your head there a lot, david gergen. when she talked about parallel national security advisers. >> this is a superb choice, one that any president would be proud of. general mcmaster is not only known for his strategy. this administration needs a strategy on international policy. there's great confusion in the world about what our priorities are, what are we trying to
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achieve over the long hall. are we trying to play with russia and china. where are we trying to go in the eu. can you talk about all sorts of issues. to go about. i also think there's still an unresolved question about whether these other power centers in the white house are going to be challenging him. are we going to have a shadow national security under bennett. is jared kushner going to be a secretary of state, he seems to be out there on his own. talking to his father-in-law, bypassing the secretary of state. what's going to be really important is to bring coherence and authority and a hierarchy of this process, so you don't have the competing power centers. what does he does not have is the power game in washington. >> let's talk about how we got here.
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>> mcmaster is replacing the ousted security adviser michael flynn. >> we're hearing for the vice president for the first time. >> i would tell you that i was disappointed to learn that the facts that have been conveyed to me by general flynn were inaccurate. but we honor general flynn's long service to the united states of america, and i fully support the president's decision to ask for his resignation. >> i want to get your response to that, now that the president has filled this vacancy, at least on this issue, is this a reset for the white house? >> you know, i think it is. and as everyone said, mcmaster couldn't be more different than flynn, a lot of folks in the intelligence community and on the hill. not big fans of general flynn. mcmaster is getting a dinner
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sort of reception as we heard from the panelists here. i do think this idea, the fact that he lied to the vice president, that is still lingering, we're still going to have senate intelligence committee look into that. still unclear as to why flynn felt he had to lie to the vice president given the fact that the president himself would be okay. i don't think that issue is going to go away, it's not quite a reset in terms of dealing with the flynn controversy. that's still very much going to be around, there are all of these issues in this administration's relationship to russia. not only the campaign phase, but in the white house now. you saw folks on the hill reaching out to the white house, and making sure they're preserving records around all of this. this is a good day for the white house. a lot of these issues to be
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resolved as well as what happens to bannon, does someone like k.t. mcfarland also -- does she remain on that national security council. >> well, you know, there's a reasonable standard that needs to be wrapped around all of this, in terms of this incoming administration. first of all, as has been said multiple times on air, it's really just doing your job. you're trying to set the table for how you intend to engage with friends and allies and
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adversaries going-forward. nobody would invoke the logan act as a result of what took place. what should have happened was there's a single point of entry as we get ready to take over. here are the list of interrogtives. nobody's negotiating a thing. all we're doing is establishing an agenda as we move forward. that's called doing your job. sadly, that thing got out of control, i think it was more characterized like an oklahoma land rush than anything else. >> stick around. what president trump said, what he meant to say and why he's doubling down today. they've got the parts, tools, and know-how to help keep your ford running strong.
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i'm going to start with you, at the president's rally over the weekend, president trump implied there had been a terror incident in sweden, he was wrong. he doubled down anyway, the fake news media is trying to say that large scale immigration in speeden is working out beautifully. not. he said what he said, we heard what he said.
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when you have mattis and pence saying these things, does it comply them. >> it makes it more difficult in terms of what the president says. the president talking about, he's a fan of nato, but, pence going over there and giving this full throated embrace of nato, there isn't a singular message coming out of this white house. it's only four weeks into the presidency. donald trump could be all over the place in terms of his foreign policy. he could sound hawkish or libertarian. i think we're seeing that play out. on many different messages in in terms of engagement with allies
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and opponents. one of the things you've seen, there are three different messages coming out of this white house. you have russia feeling emboldened in terms of where their position is in europe. i think it is problematic, we'll see if it changes. in some ways it's changing. whether you're pence or mattis you're very much on cleanup duty softening what the president says. not sure if he'll tweet something in contradiction to what they said. he talks about maybe he can make a deal with russia. he sees them very much one on one, when he talks about trade deals. the whole idea of a multilateral relationship, which is what foreign policy is, he doesn't see it that way.
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he doesn't understand if you make a deal with russia, that means a deal from the rest. >> what does this due for us internationally. >> the biggest concern i have right now. the notion of making america great again. and america first america is first in this particular instance. it's america first and its dealing with china, or whatever it is. the concern i have with that, that begins to create daylight in these multiple bilateral relationships. what we've had with the eu, is a contiguous body that's signed up for an agreed set of values and a national security perspective
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that's been wrapped with nato and different elements within the eu. that's healthy, my concern is, that could begin to atrophy if we continue to push an america first policy, and trying to strike deals individually in a bilateral kind of way. >> i see you shaking your head. >> the president of the united states has declared the press to be the enemies of the people. he talks all the time about fake news, how the president is full of fake news. why does he spend so much time watching television news. it's a mystery. he ought to be turning off his tv set, turning off his twitter account and settling down and reading the briefings that were being prepared for him. which were longer and more authoritative, getting snippets
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of things from sweden, going out and completely mistating the facts about what he just watched. it's not helpful to his preside presidency. this is a perfect moment for him to settle down and take more seriously the responsibilities of the job. >> i wonder -- i see you reacting there. there would have been information about an attack in sweden, the numbers of what's happening as it relates to crime. and those intelligence briefings probably have none of that in them. because the facts don't bear out. >> we don't know to the extent president trump is getting his intelligence briefings. i bet you my life, that they differ than something on the tucker carlson show. what the president needs to do,
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he has this apparatus available to him to understand a very complicated world that's not transactional and not binary. we don't love australia or hate australia. he views the world in this binary way, and it's much more complicated than that. today is president's day. what all presidents have been, and what i hope for this president, they've been secure yous about a world they are the leader of the greatest country. that curiosity really needs to be a part of the way that trump manages a pretty good national security team so we can begin to align our needs and our safety insecurity with what the rest of the world needs. let me just remind everyone,
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this administration has not faced a real crisis yet. there hasn't been a terrorist attack, a hurricane, a war we better maybe take this time to learn from the past, and learn from other nations. and history so that we are prepared. he's going to face it relatively soon. >> coming up, protesters take to the streets for what they call not my president's day rallies. are they hurting or helping president trump. ♪ ♪ lease a 2017 lincoln mkx for $369 a month. only at your lincoln dealer.
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president's day turned into not my president's day, for activists across the country today. here to discuss it, frank rich, producer of hbo's veep. thanks for coming on. >> same to you, don. >> let's start with these protests, are they effective? >> i don't think they're effective, they're fine. people should express their opinion. a lot of people are furious about this president.
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i would say i'm one of them. i don't think there's need for action. i think that trump's rally, his own sort of demonstration over the weekend in florida. his campaign stop, also i feel had zero effect. >> it was a great photo open, and a great rallyings of the choir. you do have to admit. in the new york times piece, are liberals helping trump. liberals may feel energized by a surge in political activist they see as ear responsible and dangerous. that momentum is provoking an equal and opposite reaction on the right. they felt assaulted by what was said. the belief that the liberal
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vision for the country was the only right way. disagreeing meant publicly shamed. >> how should the left respond to president trump. if people are doing hate trump rallies, of course trump fans are going to be furious, they get furious, they get furious when people cheered obama. i think what the left really has to do is first of all apply as much as possible to elected representatives, both democrats who can be wishy washy in opposing trump to stiffen their spine. and with republicans who in some cases are in purplish places in the country where they could be in jeopardy, if they sign on to the titanic, going to town hall
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meetings and chasing down congressmen at town hall meetings. that's a very effective tactic. it's a page from the tea party book, and the left is right to do that. rallies are fine, i don't know if they move the needle at all. >> we mentioned your colleague's piece, i would be remiss if i didn't mention your piece as well. since we have you here as a guest. you write about the republican establishment's of trump. they continue to slow, walk or kill any investigations into this moras. will it take an international crisis? who knows who else as america's enemies seize their opportunities to capitalize. given the gop leaders with trump over the past year, we already know they are about party more than country. so that's what you say. >> how long do you think this will last? >> we're young into this presidency, just a month.
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and as a guest of yours was saying earlier, we haven't had a real crisis yet, no one's really been tested, including the president, i do feel republican establishment, what's left of it in washington has to be the pressure point, that is -- it's republicans who brought down richard nixon at the height of watergate. and in the end, it's republicans that are going to have to be fearful of what's going to happen to their own necks in their own elections that are going to be the counter force against them, they have the power. right now, very few are showing any opposition. john mccain is obviously, lindsey graham, the same names, if something goes wrong with -- who knows what, with a natural disaster, with a terrorist attack, social security checks going out or medicare checks going out, constituents are going to get angry. and i think the republican leadership, controlling all the branches of government haven't
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been answered for that. we're only 30 days or so in. >> i want to you weigh-in on this next story. it's amazing to watch it unfold over the weekend. this major conservative conference disinvited milo yiannopolis talked about sex with a young boy. and talked about his own encounter with a catholic priest. they don't want to do a book with him. and he may lose his job about breitba breitbart. >> i find it interesting, cpac's reaction to it. charlie sykes is a conservative but anti-trump commentator i thought was right on the money. this guy and indeed the sort of
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alt-right movement in general, has endorsed white supremacy, anti-sell tigs, anti-immigrant and xenophobic, finally, when one of their most favored spokespeople comes out sort of in favor of pedophilia, that's what draws the line, that's terrible. what about all the other things that proceeded it. i'm eager to hear more about the whole cpac collapse, they were defending him up until 10 minutes ago. >> a lot of people were defending him. it makes you wonder if they did their homework about him before inviting them on the show inviting them to speak or what have you. i read this earlier, this was from facebook last year. i don't have the quote, i'm just reading it here. someone i know, responded to me about this. this was in january of 2016 milo
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yiannopolis an openly gay man, said i lift black men out of poverty every day. my driver takes them back in the morning. racism and misogyny is cool but pedophilia is a bridge too far? >> that's right. intoday they didn't do their homework, i read interviews with him, where he's talked about picking up older guys and using them, and almost one step below sex trafficking it seems to me. did anyone read this? and now suddenly they discover what they have, and it makes you wonder too about the whole relationship between alt-right, breitbart and the republican party, they're not examining this at all, and this may just be the tip of an iceberg they could slam against because they -- you know, there's plenty
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of this stuff in in, and not just for this one particularly flashy spokesman for the whole movement. >> always a pleasure, thank you sir. >> we come right back, milo also made a splash on bill maher's show this weekend. one guest was so outraged he refused to appear. there's more to the story next.
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. milo yiannopoulous facing backlash tonight. let's discuss now, jennifer grahn holme the former governor of michigan, rick santorum, former senator and presidential candidate. >> good to see both of you. this was a disturbing story for many, rick. milo barred from speaking there at cpac. attending to defend pedophilia.
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how important is it to reject him like this? >> i think it was a mistake to invite him in the first place, this is a problem that i've been battling in the conservative movement for quite some time. which is this -- particularly among young people, more edgy conservatism. now you hear the term alt-right, getting away from the bore iing issues. we see it now with some of this alt-right. this to me, we have moral traditions, economic traditions. >> you're a traditional conservative, i understand where you're going with this why would
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they -- you say they shouldn't have invited him any way. why would they invite him. do you think they did their homework? >> the things you just read i said how do they not know this, how do they not know this guy who's gotten so much publicity for many controversial statements he's made, and doing his campus tour, i do a lot of speaking on college campuses too, and i here about -- follow him on campus, and i hear of all the controversy around it, i'm thinking, wow! they put all this security around me, it turns out we have really great conversations and the kids are engaged and thoughtful, and you have to look at, he's an entertainer trying to promote a cause. >> that is what many on the left -- many you saw on those college campuses, the destruction and all that they
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said, that's why they didn't want him there, it's not because he wasn't conservative, because he was a provok tour, who trafficked in hate speech, i want to give this -- he insists the tapes were edited deceptively, and he does not advocate for illegal behavior. >> it wouldn't have taken much for them to see, all you have to do is open one of his books. i wish we weren't even discussing this person's name, because he is a publicity par site, he is all about getting additional clicks additional followers and i don't want cnn to be an accomplice to that. he is not just promoting until
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this clip pedophilia or apparently doing that, but he's been such a spewer of hatred. of hatred of women, of the transgender community. which is quite ironic, given that he's gay overtly. his hatred of muslims, the fact that he was hired by steve bannon, i'd like to see steve bannon and donald trump disavow him publicly. the last time he was at berkeley, donald trump tweeted in support of him saying we should let this guy speak. thank goodness cpac did disinvite him, but people need to do their program. >> it was our panelists there.
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>> realtime was so con troe v s controversial. did scahill do his homework, he seems to be doing the same thing you said. why would he not give this guy a platform? governor? >> bill mahre is a comedian and an entertainer, it's slightly different thing i would say than cpac. i think that any time any outlet puts that man on, or even ulters his name, we are -- and this is why i'd like to move to another subject -- we are helping him out. >> i got you. >> i think that's that's all he wants. >> simon and schuster saying, no longer doing a book deal, it
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appears they've done their homework. do you agree with that as well. >> that's a business decision, more than it is anything else, but i think matt at cpac did the right thing, i'm glad they did it. >> we'll talk about more. there's much more important things to discuss as well. we'll be right back. don't go anywhere. they've got the parts, tools, and know-how to help keep your ford running strong. 35,000 specialists all across america. no one knows your ford better than ford. and ford service. right now, get the works! a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more -- for $29.95 or less. pay stubs and bank statements to refinance your home. w2s, or you could push that button.
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back with me now, jennifer gra grandholme and rick santorum. we saw not my president rallies today. >> it's great, the left is obviously activated. they're putting a lot of pressure on people here in washington, d.c., washington. i think from the president's standpoint, he did finally a great job today, he ignored it. >> who are you, and what did you do with rick santorum? >> no, i think it's great. i'm trying to minimize this. i want the president -- hopefully he's watching, i want the president to realize that what he did today actually worked. for most of the news, they've
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been talking about hr. the new national security adviser, and they haven't been talking about trump tweeting things that are offensive. the news cycle is better, i'm just -- a suggestion. make sure you don't step on your stories, he's had a lot of good news that could be out there that has stepped on because of what this president tweeted or said. >> it sounds like you're talking to the president through the television. >> hello, donald? >> yes, i am. >> we know he watches you, don. >> hi, mr. president. i'm glad he watches. good. >> what do you think, jennifer? >> i love it, i'm glad that rick loves it too. this is democracy at its best, people taking to the streets, obviously it's a holl say, there are a lot of people who are taking time off anyway. to make their voices heard, what
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drives me crazy, and rick, i'd love to hear what you have to say about this, the members of congress who decide they're not going to show up, leadership is showing up. have your town halls, make your point heard. you didn't raise your hand to run for office, you did it so you could engage, some of it might be hard, but you don't do it, because it's easy, you do it because it's hard. show up, otherwise, one of those people who are protesting you might end up running against you. >> quick response, i want to talk about other things. >> you're not going to have us together any more. >> i think it's absolutely terrible that any -- >> i have to check what i'm saying. >> they should show up. absolutely. this is where you earn your keep. you stand up, face your music. i saw it on the erin burnett
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show earlier. he stood up, he faced the music, kudos to him. this is how you take on a movement straight on. >> don't run away. >> it's monday february 20th at 10:53 pittsburgh eastern time that this happened many. >> i think we agreed on three things so far. this is terrible. >> are you becoming a liberal, rick? >> bad tv. >> you're not becoming a liberal, are you? >> just telling the truth. >> thank you. >> can i say one other quick thing about this? >> we remember in 2010, the democrats got protested and started to shut it down, said it was astroturf, and tried to make it go away. we know what happened, they lost 63 seats democrats did, republicans are saying, this is astroturf, we should ignore it, this is real. people are protesting because
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they love their country and there are so many issues out there. >> didn't you say that last week? i think it was you, or maybe it was jack kingston. you guys need to agree on everything here. vice president pence trying to reassure allies. >> it is my privilege to express the strong support of president trump of the united states of america for nato and our transatlantic alliance. the united states has been a proud and faithful member of nato since 1949. this alliance plays a crucial role in peace and prosperity in the north atlantic and the entire world. the united states commitment to nato is clear. >> quickly, i have just about 30 seconds here, rick. he said that -- mattis saying, also saying, we shouldn't take the oil, the u.s. should not take the oil from iraq as well, is this the president -- and the president also said nato is
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obsolete. is this the president's inner circle playing cleanup? >> i think it's the president playing good cop bad cop. what the president said, i don't agree with him on iraq, but i do agree with him on nato. the president has moved the ball. it's time to wake up, the american public is not going to continue to fund the security of europe, without europe stepping forward and doing their fair share. i can tell you all the policies in the past to try to get our european analysts to do that, has not worked. >> i'm late to the next hour, governor. yes, cleanup? >> yeah, i just say, it's not tenable to have a foreign policy, where you have to ignore the president's words and send out emissaries to try to clean it up. >> when we come back, what president trump said about sweden and the truth behind the story. diagnostic breakthroughs... ...proof that black holes collapse into one singularity. i don't know what that is. but yes.
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